Sobriety, Strength, and Fatherhood with Drew Sinclair

AR Wellness Consulting: Today's episode is real one. I sat down with Drew Sinclair, a Coast Guard veteran, husband, and a father of three who made a complete shift in his life. ⁓ from of alcohol shaping his identity to getting sober, finding his faith, and becoming more intentional about how he lives his life and leaves his family. We talk about breaking generational cycles, learning how to actually be present with your kids, Fellas, if you made it this far, I appreciate you. And if something in this episode connected with you, don't keep it to yourself. Share it with another father who needs to hear this message. Make sure you go follow Drew Sinclair on Instagram, shoot him a message and let him know that you heard the show. And as always, make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss the next episode. We're gonna keep having real conversations that help you show it better as a man, a husband, and a father. So until next time, be present, lead your family, and keep putting in the work. It's official man and listen, this episode is brought to you by Baseline Performance. If you're a father trying to train consistently, you don't need complicated supplement stack. You need something simple that works. Baseline Performance is built for dads who want energy, recovery and consistency without overthinking it. You train hard, you recover well, you stay consistent. That's the baseline. You can check it out now at BaselinePerformanceNow.com. Again, that's BaselinePerformanceNow.com. Now let's get back to the episode.

Roderick Richard II: All right, welcome back to the ForFit Fatherhood podcast, a podcast for fathers by fathers, where we talk about the four pillars of fatherhood, which are faith, family, finance, and fitness. And ⁓ as always, I'm excited to have a guest with me today. You sometimes I get on here and I just ramble on and talk about stuff that I'm thinking about. But it's also nice to have somebody come on and kind of share their experience. It's good for me and I know it's good for you guys. guest today is Drew Sinclair. Drew, how you doing today, brother?

Andrew Sinclair: Hey Rod, I'm doing well. Thank you man for having me on.

AR Wellness Consulting: and why too many men are drifting through life without ever stepping back or asking what they really want. If you're a father who knows you need to make a change, this episode is going to hit home. Let's get into it.

Roderick Richard II: Awesome, awesome. So for the guys who don't know you yet, and will get to know you after this, Drew, us a little bit about yourself and what you going on.

Andrew Sinclair: Alright, so I'm just shy of my 44th birthday in about a month and a half I just retired from the Coast Guard, well, about a year and a half ago. And May 17th, 2024, retired from the Coast Guard. Married my high school sweetheart. I have three children. And we did something a little unique. So I moved around my entire career in the Coast Guard as a helicopter rescue swimmer for the first half. And then the second half, I was an officer. Lived in amazing places. But soon as we retired, we basically sold all of our stuff. And now we've been traveling full time in an RV. So around the country for, yeah, about a year and a half. So I'm literally in my RV. This is the kind of the mass, you know, the primary bedroom of our RV. we've been homeschooling our kids, our three children and You know, I still train. I'm into physical fitness and training, so I still train every day doing this lifestyle. And I went sober January 1st, 2025 after being essentially a functional alcoholic for the last 10 years of my career. And then I found my faith about three months later being sober. And now, you know, fast forward today, 14 months sober, like I'm living the best shape of my life, you the oldest I've ever been. Relationships are the best. Just lots of good things have happened to us in the sense I retired and really started living intentionally my wife and I and our family and just blessed And then I started social media two weeks after I went sober of January 2025 and I was against social media and said, you know what? I'm trying this new thing where I'm going sober and I just started filming myself, you know with my phone while I running and saying motivational post and And things like that and it's of taking you know Roughly about 10,000 followers and I've helped a lot of guys me on the scenes You know with fitness joining the Coast Guard going sober Talk to some guys about marriage stuff having kids all kinds of stuff So it's and it's some doors for me and allowed me to do multiple podcasts and just meet incredible people so Honestly, and again it connected me you here, you know right here. ⁓ So just grateful and is Just going well, so I'm just going to where I'm listening where I'm being pulled and just going to flow

Roderick Richard II: That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, just kind of kind of listening to God's word and just moving, moving where it says to move is usually the best way to do it. And we typically have these ideas of the way we want to do things. And then God, you know, he taps us on the shoulder, say, Hey, buddy, we're going to do it this way.

Andrew Sinclair: Oof. Absolutely. Yes, I got tapped.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, you know what, there's another another guy on on social media. I would say, you know, we met through social media, but we're closer than that now is Jack Noffle. He a Marine retired during covid situation and him and his wife kind of did the nomad thing for a while around the states then they moved to to to Mexico now.

Andrew Sinclair: ⁓ wow, okay.

Roderick Richard II: they did the RV for a while, but now they're in Mexico. I don't know if they're gonna stay there. ⁓ I they've been there for maybe a couple years now, but he the Daz Against the Narrative podcast. it ⁓ might be for you to connect with, because he's kind of in the same vein of some of the things that you've done. Maybe not so much tied into his religion, I can't speak for that. You know what I mean?

Andrew Sinclair: Ah, okay. I'll have check them out. Sure. Absolutely.

Roderick Richard II: that may be his thing that he's maybe a little bit more private about than putting on social media. know everything isn't always for social media and sometimes those relationships, they be family or your relationship to your faith are not always like the thing that we necessarily lead with when we start ⁓ hitting

Andrew Sinclair: Sure. Absolutely. agree and and I didn't even tell you this because I know we just started but ⁓ on top of, ⁓ was a, I guess, what's the word, a denier, non-believer for 43 years of my life. And, know, I was more the black and white guy of science. And I was like, you know, you can't prove faith. And so always shunned people away from God. ⁓ And I multiple, looking back at multiple kind of examples and things that happened in my life, especially in the past year and a half since I retired, where, you know, God down and there was a clear sign, like I can no longer deny it. And it started, you know, once I got sober and I got that clarity and got away from the bottle and started doing some really deep dive thinking. for me, ⁓ lead with I'm a very proud and loud believer. Just I know, I tell now, how do you know? And it's different for everybody, but. I ⁓

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: back on myself you know just a year and a half ago and I felt like I was like so arrogant to many things like I thought I knew it all and I thought the books and the textbooks and the education the government you know and now I'm like no yeah so now I read scripture every day and that's you know what I believe in what I follow because to me it's timeless it's it's tried and true and it's the word you know

Roderick Richard II: Thank Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny how that works, right? Like it was written thousands of years ago and you'll read something and be like, ⁓ man, Bader wrote that today. Like that was literally written for me. Like it spoke directly to me. It's you you go in a museum and the eyes and the pictures are following you around. It's like that, you know, it just you. It's like, man, that message was exactly for me. How did they know, you know?

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. 100%. Yeah Something I'm I don't know what it is and I've had people ask me because I've talked about this on a few podcasts because I and again I say I'm loud and proud because I put it on my social media how I'm a believer now and

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: just because again I know the impact it's done to me but I mean it's been amazing like I when would say the Holy Spirit touched you I've had that like the first time I went to church was March of last year and I remember walking in and this is three months sober and I walked in I felt his chills came all over me and I literally started crying in the back of the church like what the heck is wrong with me you know my wife was there she's like what's wrong with you I'm like I just tears fall you know and I started reading scripture every day from that point on and now I don't miss a day it's literally how I start my day is you know brush my teeth first thing I do is do that and then I could go read 30 minutes of scripture my training in and literally starts my day with gratitude and just like I cannot miss a day's when I tell my wife now Like I look forward to doing it

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, that's awesome. That's absolutely awesome. So you God first, sobriety second. Was that like kind of the finding your spirituality kind of pushed you into sobriety or how did that work? Or was that something that you were kind of... Go ahead. Okay. Got you. Got you.

Andrew Sinclair: Well, it's got Well vice versa actually went sober January 1st, but I had some signs when I looked back after being three months sober that I look back and One in particular was October of 2024 so I'd retired May of 2024 and then we retired out of Miami, Florida and we started traveling up the East Coast and we're in Maine and

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: pull into RV park in Maine and then I see a guy next to me, already there in his RV park with his family and I see an army flag flying. So I assume these retired vet, you know, there's tons of retired vets in the RV world that travel full time as we were doing. pull in, we're setting up, they're already established, already set up and I it's around noon ⁓ and get set up. I walk over with my tumbler and usually my drink of choice is whiskey. So I walked over and I say, hey man, you know, your neighbor, we're here for two weeks at the park. You know, would love to, you know, catch up with you and chat with you and you know, whiskey night and sit by the campfire. That's kind of what you do in the RV world. It's fun. It's amazing. he's like, yeah, you know, it's private army. He's like, yeah, but I don't drink. And I was like, okay, you know, and I'm wrong with that, but it's just usually vets. It's, big in the military culture, right? So I was like, okay. And nothing about it, but the next seven days we hung out and we, you know, we went over to campfires together and we chatted. I always drank every night. We didn't talk about God or anything. Not once. We just had small talk, you know, just talking about, what'd you do in the coast guard? Hey, what'd you do in the army? Watch the kids play. The day we were leaving, I had my whole rig packed up and it's like an hour and half process to pack your rig up. You got to pull the slides in, pack up everything, hook it up to the truck, get the kids all wrangled up. So my wife, kids, everybody's in the truck, it's idling. I literally walk over to the guy. I was like, hey, awesome to a neighbor, man. I hope to see you around the town, around the country if we continue traveling. And he literally walks up, places a Bible on my chest and he says, hey man, this is for you. Beautiful Bible. I have it literally right above my shelf back there. uh gotta get chills every time I tell a story and leather bound beautiful gold leaf bible placed on my chest and I look at him like you know so I'm like hey I want to be your special I said thank you his name is BJ I was like thank you BJ you know he's like hey that's for you man he's like stay in touch and I was like and that's all we said so at the time I was still drinking a non you know non-believer um And then so that was October, 2024. And then January 1st, 2025, said, have, I knew I had a drinking problem. Again, I knew it for a long time. My wife, I hate it from a lot of people at work. So I said, January 1st, I'm going to try to go one day without drinking. I never had done a full day without drinking. And I started doing one day, you know, then two days, three days, obviously a week, month, you know, and then come March, we went to church after being three months sober. And that's where I broke down, just like uncontrolled. was very And that's why I was like man is what it like what is going on with me and again I just started reading scripture every day and I feel Like again that saying the Holy Spirit touches you and when people would say it before and I'm like that's so weird You know and now I'm like not weird at all not like not at all So he is definitely touching me

Roderick Richard II: Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: I am a changed man, my whole perspective on everything moving forward. It's weird, like my standards have been raised. And I did it for myself and I came to him organically. Nobody forced me and said, go to church or read the Bible. I never grew up going to church. I didn't go to Sunday school, didn't do any of that. So it's like I came to him all organically. That's why to me it's so powerful. That's why I'm loud and proud now, how I tell it.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, that's awesome, man. It's funny, you just don't expect it, right? Then it just hits you. And it's really cool that, know, God is so amazing, bro. Like you're that situation, just out, making small talk. could have, like, he probably that intent to give you the Bible before that time, right? And it was probably like, don't wanna, you know, we're having a good time. I don't wanna push it.

Andrew Sinclair: I agree

Roderick Richard II: And then, you know, probably for the same for him, like it was just like that nudge, like, hey man, this is the time. Like you're going to miss this opportunity to get his brother, you know, the gospel, right? And just boom, just right place, right time. He was just being obedient, gave it to you. And that's the catalyst, you know, that kind of sparked the change that now you ⁓ have infected or affected 10,000 people through social media and other people who've listened to podcasts and just, you know, people who have seen you.

Andrew Sinclair: Yep.

Roderick Richard II: All because of just one moment. You know what I mean?

Andrew Sinclair: Absolutely, it's the magic of how he works, ⁓ miracle. It's hard to explain, but I can no longer deny the feeling. To me, amazing. Now it's the center of my life. My marriage, my kids, they all want to be baptized. All these good things are happening to us. I attribute to God, to Him. Since I retired, there's so many good things that have happened to us. I mean all over the place and I'm just, I don't know, I feel very blessed, you know? continue worshiping him, reading my scripture and trying to be the best man I can be and best husband and best dad.

Roderick Richard II: There you go, there you go. Speaking of that, you got three kids. How old are your kids?

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. So I have a son who's 16, daughter is 13, and another daughter is 10.

Roderick Richard II: Okay, all right, cool, cool. got two girls myself, so I have a 13 and an 11 year old, so we're right there. So you mentioned your dad, you kind of obviously are now sober, but your dad was a drinker as well. He passed away when you were 15, so right around the age your son was when you decided to go sober, did that play any part in it, or is that anything that you thought about?

Andrew Sinclair: All right, there you go. that played a huge part into it. mean, looking at as I'm breaking a generational cycle. Because I have an older brother, younger brother, and younger sister, so four of us total. And the household grew up in, my mom was amazing. But growing up in an alcoholic household like that where... seeing the things we saw and the things that happened, mean no child should have to go through that. So I feel like I got a first-hand one-on-one PhD in what alcohol does to a family. And I knew that, so I didn't start drinking until I was like 21. Most people start drinking when they're 18 or behind the closed doors. I was like, I'm not going to drink because I don't even want to tempt myself because I could have it in my DNA or my genes. And so started drinking at 21, but it didn't get bad until the last 10 years of my career. And then it really got a hold

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: me. I I had a problem and I couldn't take a day off. I'm like, holy crap. Then I started drinking a a night on the weekends. It's just like, too much. Again, my kids would see it. They would comments my wife always knew. She'd always say, you can't quit, you? It's just like, she would eat me inside. I wasn't happy myself. I never did any deep thinking because I was always, mean, essentially drunk ⁓ is I people because never did any intros. thinking I I didn't feel like I was arrogant. That's why I wasn't a faith believer. like, ⁓ my gosh. I put that mask on when I went to work, that I had it all together. And on paper, I looked great. If you saw me, prior rescue server on the Coast Guard enlisted, went officer, retired Lieutenant Commander, high ranking, did a career. I tell people I had a great career. had an awesome career, I so high, strong, and so stressed out. I put everything into my job, my career, kind of put the family second tier. I couldn't hide my from them. it just took its toll. It just too much and that wound still hits me with my dad being gone. So I can't do it to my kids. It's a that I'll never, never heal. And I don't my kids to ever experience that, ⁓ you know, the and just the self doubt, you know, is dad not here? it's not, you know, my whole life, my purpose is to be a dad and a husband, you know? And that's what I'm doing by doing this and I just, way better.

Roderick Richard II: What? Yeah, yeah, I bet. is it that, I mean, looking back on it, right? Like, what is it that you're making sure you're doing or not doing? Obviously sobriety is one of those things, but like, what is it that your kids are getting from you that maybe you didn't get from your dad? Like, contentional about it, right? And you're being purposeful about it. What are some of the things that you're leaning into at this time?

Andrew Sinclair: Gosh, just being present. mean, I didn't even know my dad. I ⁓ my will ask me sometimes, what's your dad doing? I'm I don't even know. I don't know. My dad was in the army. He was a colonel ⁓ in the officer in the army, deployed a lot, alcoholic big time. So what I do know of him, he never sat down and talked with us. He never went to games with us. So don't have any of that. so here I am doing the exact opposite. it very hard, gosh, when went sober, because when I was in the Coast Guard, I was so busy and so stressed out and drinking. And I myself was doing very similar things that my dad was doing and not being present, because I was so stressed out. And then once I retired, we're living off pension from the Guard and ⁓ doing the RV But I'm home with my wife and my kids in the RV, a very tight space. So it's like we're living intentional. to like learn at the age of 42 when we'd started this learn like how to it's kind of strange I had like learn on the fly like how to be present how to just talk to my kids and it but it's been very very good like I it's been amazing like I just went for a little run you know with my daughter my youngest Phoebe who's you know ten years old a one mile run you know she sees me working out every day outside the RV training and she's like dad can we go on a run I'm like let's go like absolutely like I would never you know what I mean but I never even I miss all those opportunities

Roderick Richard II: Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: because I was so stressed out with work and just the typical 9 to 5 grind and just hating life and then drinking and just kind of drifting and just... and I'm not. Now my life is intentional of what I do. So I look for opportunities to hang with my kids and I have a one-on-one with each other. We'll do things the time. So it's just being intentional and present.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, that's important, man. I tell guys this too, because if you're not present, right, and a lot of us are like really career focused and that's kind of what we've been taught is like, provide, provide, provide. In order to do that, we get into our careers. And if we have any success in our careers, then we lean even further into our career. ⁓ And then we this pull between provision and presence. And so we go, okay, we're gonna be present. But it's like.

Andrew Sinclair: Yep.

Roderick Richard II: we don't know what the heck to do. It's like we go into our house and they're speaking a different language, right? In your situation, it's almost like immersion. know, like you go to another country, you just got to speak the language. Like you're in a RV with everyone all the time. Like you have to be able to speak their language or else you won't survive and they won't survive. So that's kind of, yeah, exactly, exactly. So ⁓ you went cold turkey right into it, which is awesome because obviously has forced you to do some things that...

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Trial by fire. Yeah, absolutely.

Roderick Richard II: you already wanted to do, you just didn't know how to.

Andrew Sinclair: That's good way to put it. It's almost like an immersion. was instant because, yeah, I look at relationships and the things I talk about with my kids and how... You know, because we do this homeschool. homeschooled. And as we travel the country, we meet up with other full time travelers. There's a whole world that does this. You our whole group of folks out there do this in the country. Very interesting fun. You meet these people and you meet up in different spots around the country. ⁓ So my have tons of friends like you would not like my son has a girlfriend. And it's amazing. So but my point is I'm able to talk to ⁓ my kids things like that. And when they have, you know, conflicts, you know, like my one of my daughters has conflicts with another girl. ⁓ to give my perspective and they come talk to me. Like I didn't talk to my mom and my dad obviously passed away. I didn't talk to them about any of that. I never had that like parent sounding board, you know, so my kids actually come to me and want to talk to, you know, myself, my wife and it's like, it's amazing. Like, so we're like, wow, you know, because like, are we the cool parents or like, we don't know, we're just like, but they want to come talk to us. And like, it's a because my wife, the same thing, she never really had that relationship with her mom and dad. So we're like, oh, my gosh, our kids want to come talk to us like this is this is a good thing. We just feel so much more connected with them than how we, you know, grew up. So We think we're doing it right. We're still winging it as you know every day, feels good, you know.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah. And that's something to remember too is like, won't officially know, like we're raising adults, right? And so we won't officially know if what we're doing day in and day out ⁓ the right thing until they become adults, right? And we won't know like, if we plant a seed, we won't know if we did the right thing until that seed sprouts and becomes actual tree. Like we won't know. And that's kind of our situation as parents is like.

Andrew Sinclair: Absolutely.

Roderick Richard II: I don't know, man, I think I did a great job today. know, I did my after action summary. It looks like I did some good stuff. I kind of messed up here. I did some good stuff there. I don't know, let's start tomorrow and try again, right? And then we just keep trying to stack those days on top of each other. And then hopefully at the end, we can say we did a great job, but either way we did everything that we could along the way. And I think that's the part we have to lean into because a lot of guys feel like, am I doing this right? Am I doing the right things? I, I, it always this kind of question of, am I doing enough?

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah Yep.

Roderick Richard II: And the answer is, did you do something today? you did, then you did enough, you know?

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah, think as parents we should all try to, especially dad, try to, I think all parents want to give our kids better lives than what we had. You know, and I think that's, if you're doing that, you're moving the needle forward and you're doing at least some positive And I sure know we're doing that with our kids. You know, because ⁓ my wife, came from a broken home as well and I came from broken home, so.

Roderick Richard II: Thank

Andrew Sinclair: you know, her dad is deceased. You my dad's deceased. My kids essentially don't have a grandpa. Um, but they're growing up in a household, well, an RV right now, but household with mom and dad being present, you know, always there. Um, they have food on the table. Like I went without food at times, you know, we up in a welfare in certain times. So all these struggles that we experienced and things that I don't think any kids should really have to like where my kids are, they're living such a good life. But yes, I think the truth, you know, the proofs in the pudding, you know, when they're like 20 and hopefully they like us still, you know, and hopefully

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: they're successful and they pursue. But just want to raise good that are respectful, communicate well, and want to be around us. And if I get that when older, and my kids want to be around me, ⁓ then I'm a happy

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. When they want to come back and spend time with you or they pick up the phone and call you and say, hey, dad, how you doing? Or this happened today. Then, yeah, you know, like, like they do now, right? Like they come to you now and they tell you stuff and they share things with you because they still think like you're all knowing dad, right? ⁓ And when you get, when you get old and they're off on their lives, you want that same thing, right? And you want them to be able to feel like they can always come back to you and ask questions and feel.

Andrew Sinclair: That's my dream. Yep. Yep.

Roderick Richard II: safe and secure in your space, you

Andrew Sinclair: Absolutely. Absolutely. That's I mean, that's the honestly that's the end goal I hope they grow up and be successful with whatever they do But I want them to be confident who they are and we're trying to instill these good morals and values in them and to be You know respectful well-mannered Communicate well be able to talk to anyone so and and I feel like that gets you very far in life You know, so I hope what we're doing again, we're winging it just like a lot of people are but you know, so we'll see I'm optimistic about it though. I'll say that I feel good about it, you know

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. Yeah. Right, right. You're still putting in the work, right? Still putting in the work. So when you decided, when you kind of leaned into your faith, you leaned into sobriety, was there something that you talked about with the family or is it just like maybe a quiet decision you made by yourself and then they just kind of experienced it or how did that work for you?

Andrew Sinclair: My gosh every day absolutely Well sobriety I told my wife I said I'm gonna try it's know, 2025 I want I said it was New Year's Eve We're actually having a party at our RV. We had like 200 people over it's crazy and We're all drunk drinking staying up late right partying from the RV and I said honey. I want to try it's a new it's a new year tomorrow I want to try and go sober. She's like really I'm like I said I want to try it and she's like course you're supportive, you know, she's always wanted me to quit and You know, so I started I took it literally took it one day at a time One day at a time. I did one day. I'm like, yep

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's it.

Andrew Sinclair: It sounds crazy. It's just little wins and you stack them because I've talked to so many guys offline about this and one day at a time. Then it became two, three, then a week. I'm like, shoot. And it was hard. The first few months were hard. I'll be honest, it was hard. But now being what, 14 months? don't even remember. 14, 15 months? don't know how. Yeah, 14 months now.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: Like it's I feel inside, the things that have happened, how I view my optics of the world, my perspective, everything's changed. then physically, I mean, if I have pictures on my social media that I post just two ago, if you saw my body, I drank so much I had, I was puffy. didn't realize alcohol was so estrogenic. So I had like this puffy look over my entire, like my face, my body, everything. Like my face, like now, I mean, this is me, no alcohol. I don't drink or do anything.

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: Thank And I'm like, leaner than I'm in the best shape of my life. It's crazy. Like even better than when I went through rescue summer school when I was 22, 23 years old. And like I didn't realize alcohol, the amount I was drinking, that my body just was always constantly inflamed. So when you do that, it makes you retain that water. So was puffy. So mean, again, physically, every metric has improved, is what I tell people. So the wife was very supportive of that. On the faith kind of side, it kind of happened slowly. know, March is when we went to

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: church together and I started you know she saw me kind of break down and and then I started reading so she was like okay and she has her own her with it she was raised Southern Baptist and you know in North Carolina went to you went to church every Sunday and on Wednesday and I think went like Friday or ⁓ whatever very very in church as young age and then she got kind turned off on it because a lot of more you know, sleeping around, were drinking, they would say one thing in the church setting and then behind closed doors doing other things. So she thought were hypocritical. So kind of pulled away from it. It's not she didn't believe she's kind of pulled away from it. So she was kind like, so when I like leaning into it very heavily, you know, she gave my space to like do my thing. And then, but now she sees how I've changed for the better. And she's kind of getting board it. Like it's just so again, lots of things. are happening. Lots of good things. We just bought a house so we'll be coming out of the RV here in May and went to found a church in the community went to the church and met some of most amazing people. My and my kids and the first time as my family as me dad as a leader my family took my entire family to church was literally two weeks ago and it amazing and my kids it the people yeah no again I'm telling you God is good like how he works so just Yep, so now I feel like everybody's on board. Everybody's following dad's lead because I'm following his lead. So working out.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah, you know what, you said something there that sparked something for me that I heard. And I think he actually turned into a book. Are you familiar with who Ed Milett is? He's kind of like a motivational speaker, author, Tony Robbins type guy, right? He has a book that's called The Power of One More, it comes from his father was sick or passing.

Andrew Sinclair: Hit my lid? I have not. Okay. I know Tony Robbins, okay?

Roderick Richard II: And one of the things they were saying, maybe it wasn't secret passing. I'm trying to remember how it goes, because I read it a couple years ago. Something was happening. Ultimately, it boiled down to whatever their thing is, just one more day. Whatever, like, OK, I feel like it's tough today, but let's just hold on for one more day. We'll just try one more day. You're talking about one day at a time. Whatever it is that we're struggling with, and it's like, oh, today is the worst day that I've ever had in my life. Well, two things, the reality is you've always survived the worst day you've ever had. If you look back at it and then two, if we just hold on for one more day, things can change, right? Or if we're working towards something and it's not looking like it's going where we want to, just one more day, right? And that idea of one more day or just one day at a time, that's how we get to goals, right? That's how we actually do things, right? It's the big swings. It's typically not these big massive swings in one direction or the other.

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. Sure.

Roderick Richard II: It's just kind of stacking the brick and not giving up.

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. say the same thing. I say that too. I do fitness and I tell my clients, I'm like, what you just stack those bricks and build that wall of discipline. Because they'll be like, well, I'm tired today. I'm like, even if you're tired, go out and do the workout. Just put yourself through the motions, right? It may not be the most productive workout, but I'm like, go out there and stack those bricks and build that wall and get win. Because over time is when it happens. The change happen overnight. It happens through a process and committed to it and being intentional.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah. Let's stay on the thing for a second because I know a lot of guys that I talk to, because I'm in the fitness space as well, the is always like, I don't enough time, I'm too busy, or I don't access to a gym or I don't have equipment, right? You obviously are living in a different scenario, being in an RV, moving around, traveling. I don't know what your gym situation is, but from what I've seen, you're not going to the conventional gym every day.

Andrew Sinclair: Totally agree. Sure. Sure.

Roderick Richard II: Right? So what is it maybe dads that are saying, I don't have time or I don't access, what is something that maybe you would say to them if they were to reach out to you with those kind of questions or maybe even concerns?

Andrew Sinclair: Sure. Well, first of all, everybody has time. I tell people, I hear they do. I tell people it's just not a priority. Everybody, we all have the same 24 hours in a day. You're not making a priority is what I tell people. And some people just, a lot of the people that I talk to don't know where to start. So they just don't do anything. It's like, oh, and they over-complicate the stuff and they think it's so complex. It's really not. I've been working out since I about to be 44, so every day since I was 17.

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: So I love working out. I do it for beyond the physical benefits and aspects of it. And to me, it's the mental is what I really do it for. So I love it. But once I get folks into a plan and I'm able to coach them and they start seeing this, they just overcomplicate it. It's not that hard. I tell people I live in an RV. Well, you can't see, but my window is right here. And I literally have two adjustable dumbbells that go up to 100 pounds each. And I have a fold-up pull bar over there and a bench. And that's

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: it meaning chest, tris, and shoulders. Tuesday's gonna be cardio conditioning day, and for me that's running. My clients, depending what they have access to, it could be biking, swimming, running, whatever they choose for their cardio. Wednesday's gonna be. day meaning back and thighs and then Thursday is another cardio conditioning day and then Friday is a mid leg day and then Saturday is another cardio conditioning day ⁓ then Sunday is your day off but I'm big proponent of not taking days off so I call it active recovery because I because we're my target audience is guys you know 40 and plus so a little bit older we don't recover like we do you know did in our 20s and 30s where we can you know I did body building back then where he could I do the gym bro split and train each muscle like two times a week and just you know, annihilate the muscles and I've had four surgeries right here, I'm all jacked up now, but like we don't recover that way, so at our age, I'm more about training smart and intentional. So I stimulate them up, I try to tell them stimulate the muscle, not annihilate it. Because we don't want injury, I want to get blood in there, I want to get you to have the range of motion, whatever group we're training, and then I want to get the synergy effect of doing it with cardio. And when you do that, it's, and that's why I say I'm, you know, about to be 44 in the best shape of my life. Because I've been doing this since I retired, when I got sober.

Roderick Richard II: and

Andrew Sinclair: And I am like I just ran 28 miles our day. I'm training for an ultra, you know, it's like yeah, and I never thought I used to hate running and I don't have a runners build I'm a little little heavier said about 200 pounds, you know, and it's ran 28 miles So I just ran 10 this morning and then ran another mile, you know, so I'm just I have the energy and the capacity now to really be Physically present with with my kids now. So when guys say they don't have the time You do have the time because if I come audit your day could find the time for sure. if you don't have the equipment, I mean I'll show you what I have. I have two adjustable dumbbells. And I have guys, clients that literally just use, we do body weight stuff. ⁓ know, they work out in their basement. ⁓ I work with anybody, ⁓ the point is like anyone, if make it a priority, ⁓ you get in shape. You know, and I get it. Some people don't want start. You can out to people like me. Obviously you can just go, you can go and chat to your team and figure this, you know. There's so much information out there. I just tell to start. You know, you have start. You only get one life and to not this life in the best body to is like I don't it I train every day I don't know how people take I don't know how people don't work out you know ⁓

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah, I'm on the same boat, man. I'll be 43 in, shoot, two weeks. ⁓ And it's of those things where like, I probably work out, well, there was a period of my time, ⁓ a in my life where I was bodybuilding and training like a bodybuilder. So that time and now probably the most I work out, right? Like I played football, worked out because I had to in school and all that stuff. And I loved.

Andrew Sinclair: ⁓ nice, you. ⁓

Roderick Richard II: fitness so I became a personal trainer for a while, strength and conditioning coach, worked with all these, but I work out now more than I ever, like I'll probably have a streak right now of probably 40 some odd days whereas I haven't missed a day, right? And it's not because of anything in particular and I'm not even really keeping track. just like, you know, I go into the garage and I started writing stuff up. I'm oh man, shoot.

Andrew Sinclair: Thank you. See I like there

Roderick Richard II: What was it? Day 47? Oh man, like, you know. But it's just a matter of, exactly, exactly. Like, and it's just like, it doesn't make sense to me if I'm not getting it in. Like, I feel weird. I feel off. And it's, and every day, every day isn't like I'm going in there trying to kill myself. Like it, when I say I work out every day, it's not, I'm not, I'm not doing what I used to do, right? Where I've taken every set to failure, super sets and.

Andrew Sinclair: You made it to a habit. Yeah. Yup. 100%. Exactly. Exactly.

Roderick Richard II: and grind in and all that. will get some of those. I still have some grinders. I still wanna be strong. I still wanna look like I work out. But most of my days are not maintenance. I hate to say maintenance, but it's just maintaining, like you said, range of motion, blood flow. I am doing some stuff that's challenging me because I want that every day. I wanted me to challenge first thing in the morning to set me up for whatever else is coming next. But that's the bulk of it anymore. You know, it's very, very survivable, manageable, but it also is challenging me each day. ⁓ I had a question for you. So in that particular scenario, guy doesn't have a whole lot of time, doesn't have a whole lot of equipment. What would you say is like the minimum, maybe minimum standard workout that they could do? if you just gave them a quick one, like, hey, you got, I got 15 minutes. I just found 15 minutes in my day. What should I do?

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. Sure. 15 minutes, okay, if we have, if we're a time crunch like that, I would probably go with hit.

Roderick Richard II: you

Andrew Sinclair: Hit is one of my favorites. So I kind of throw it under cardio conditioning days. But hit, if you're doing push-ups, sit-ups, and stuff like that, or jump squats where you're just moving your body, calisthenics stuff, you can get a good workout in. So always lean towards hit. I do hit once a week. Usually do on my Thursdays. And kind of hit like plyo. So you're jumping around just like I literally just do with my body right here, my wife and I. So if jumping doing body weight squats, push-ups, jacks, going into plank position, popping

Roderick Richard II: Okay.

Andrew Sinclair: up burpees things like that if you do that for 15 minutes you're gonna be breaking a sweat that's what I people exactly and then exactly you know this people that work out know that but again people that have never done it just

Roderick Richard II: You be smoked. You be smoked.

Andrew Sinclair: There's so much information out there from, know, this is the best training plan. This is the best diet. And one's not necessarily better than the other. It depends on what your goal is, what I tell people. But the thing is just start. You know, start and you kind of figure it out as you go and see what fits for you. But start and then you start seeing the benefits and you start feeling the benefits in your mental and your all kinds of things. And like you said, if I miss, so my morning routine is I literally wake up, brush my teeth and I go read 30 minutes of scripture and I go train. That's I do it every day. And then I come say some words of affirmation to my wife and kids. And like those three things.

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: I do every day and I cannot miss it and I feel like it starts my day off grounded with intention and I feel I have gratitude every time I do it and just it's a good way for me to start my day and then the rest of my day could be a little different we always do different plans but that's the three things non-negotiables that I do every day.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. Can you talk a little bit about like, so non-negotiables, like I think those are, it's important to like lean into that a little bit because I think what happens with is if don't our schedule in check, right? Like we don't have that kind of, at least a concept of what a schedule looks like. We get kind of blown to and from. Like whatever happens today is just kind of take me wherever. But I think every man should have a set of non-negotiables that either are character non-negotiables, you know health and fitness non-negotiables maybe even some you know conversation non-negotiables like things you just don't say or do you know what mean like do did you like have a to have those things or like you just kind of embrace some things that like hey these are the things that have ⁓ given me most bang for my buck or most ROI or these are things that again priorities maybe these are the priorities of things that I need to make sure that I take care of for me before I meet the rest of my day is that more more of the case

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. I think it's more the latter because it yeah came on always worked out every day, even when I was alcoholic. I'd always work out. So my wife knew if I missed a workout, it was kind of moody. Like you even said earlier, you kind of feel off, like weird. And I'm the same way. If I miss a workout, the rest of my day, I feel like I'm out of my body. I'm looking around like I just ⁓ feel like myself. So always known my life is centered around training and physical fitness. And then once I found faith and I started reading the scripture every morning,

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: then I'm like, wow, doing that first training, I've seen these positive effects in my life and how I do that. again, it centers my, starts my day off with gratitude. And I think that's one of the best things, like me, I think everybody should start the day off with that. ⁓ I want to preach or push you, but if you wake up gratitude, it sets the for rest of the day. And just to be thankful for the simplest things. that part kind of, happened slowly within the past years. I kind of got deeper into my faith and realizing, wow, reading scripture works, training works. Coming inside the RV after training and I say something, my wife is beautiful. My hey, did you guys sleep well? Just having these little tiny conversations and... It's a good way to start the day. And once I do that, rest of the day can kind of go which way or not. then I also have a calendar that I use, and I have tasks in there that I have to hit every day, which tries, I guess, to keep me in my lane or on track. But those are the three non-negotiables every day.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. think that's important, man. think, like I said, I think everybody should have some non-negotiables, things that just, hey, these are the things that make me me or that keep me me. They keep me in line, like you said, because it's like a ⁓ rudder, right? Or, you know I mean? It's just like, if you don't have those things, you can kind of drift anywhere, right?

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. There you go.

Roderick Richard II: be pulled in a bunch of different directions, but those things keep you on track. They keep you on course for and who you want to be. Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. Yup. Absolutely. You just said it like drifting and I felt like the last 10 years of my career when I turned into an alcoholic and I just wasn't happy and I always tell people the term drifting because that's what I was doing. I was getting my paycheck and I was getting paid very well and I was doing my job and I did love my job. just... It didn't become a feeling at the end, it became very stressful and it was just I couldn't ever keep up with it. So it became too much for me and then I of was fueling myself with alcohol and it was was a bad combination. So I looked at my last 10 years of my career, it's kind of just drifting. And then now, you know, I make way less money because I'm retired, just left my pension, but I would never want to go back to that old lifestyle because I knew how I wasn't here and it wasn't, you know, I like what I'm doing now. I'm living intentional. I'm choosing to do this. I'm choosing way, how I live every day and feels good.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, that's good, man. That's good. What is maybe, hmm, what is the hardest, like maybe truth that you have to accept about your past life that made you change it? You know what mean? Like what was it? Because I know you kind of like, was New Year's you were just like, hey, I'm gonna try it. But something kind of pushed you to that, right? And so what was that? Because I know there's guys that are listening that are maybe going through the same situation, right? Where they're... functioning, right? They're doing all the things. Like you said, it looks perfect on paper, but they know there's something going on, right? And it's just not feeling right anymore. What was that thing for you where you were like, man, hey, I gotta accept that this is the truth and I need to change it.

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah. Gosh, I guess it's a couple things. I knew if I continued drinking what my life would look like. So I had that picture in my mind. I'm like, I continue doing this, if I stay, because you don't have to retire 20 years. If I stayed in the Coast Guard, I would have continued drinking. Once you hit 20 years, retirement eligible. So a lot of guys do retire at 20, but some will go on for 25, even 30. I so I knew what my life would look like if I stayed in I would continue being stressed out and continue drinking and I was like I have to make a change like if there's this The the path I was going cannot continue like I was gonna literally end up like my dad I knew I didn't want to do that because I ⁓ know not that my dad didn't love me. Well, I don't even know but again never knew but like I love my kids I'm very present my kids like I can't I fathom doing that to them, you know after me going through it So I would look at like that till till if guys are looking at how to quit or you know ⁓ reasoning like if you on that same trajectory that path you're on now You know what your life looks like and have to be willing to step out and do something completely different And you have to travel and argue like I did but I was willing to open my mind to any possibility because I knew I needed change I need a healing I had a wound and I was just filling it with alcohol because I didn't want to dress anything the alcohol just numb me and I never dealt with anything inside me and So just day we would just numb it away right and just packs it all down but

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm.

Andrew Sinclair: It doesn't go away. It's like in there. You just keep drinking So I'll tell guys like if Yeah, if want to continue on doing drinking like it's not gonna serve you any any purpose Every metric will will improve in your life. If you ⁓ you quit drinking And I'm trying to think, there was one incident that happened with two friends and they're amazing people, but they're fellow coasties. And so I retired May, 2024. We went back to Miami where I retired out of in December of 2024. We had a storage unit down there. So I saw two of my buddies who are still in the Coast Guard, are in the Coast Guard at the time and still in now. And we hung out and this is when I was drinking and we got plastered. And it was embarrassing. My wife had to send them home. She had to pour the bottles out because, you know, we got plastered. One of them was darn near blacking out. We're being very loud. We're in the cul-de-sac of the RV. It's just embarrassing. And their wives were mad at them. My wife was mad at me. My kids saw it. And it's just like, I remember waking up the next morning and it's like, you don't really know what happened. I never blacked out, but I'd always ask the next morning if they're drinking heavy. And I'm like, dang, honey, like, did anything happen? And she's like, yeah, I had to send your friends home. You know, I'm like, dang, it was that She's like, yeah, they did, know, X, Y, Z. I'm like, golly, right in front of the kids. And I'm like, and that was mid December of 2024. And then literally like two weeks later is when I started it. But I'm ever thinking, I'm like, gosh, then I can see my kids faces next morning. And of course, my wife's, you know, telling me what I did. like, what am I doing? Like, like, like, what am I doing? Like at some point I have to grow up. You know, like this cannot continue. So I knew, and I knew leading up to that I needed, I had a problem. I just didn't know how to quit. But I was like, January 1st, it's coming around the corner. Let's try it out. Just one day. One And I tell people, if you can just do one day, try it. ⁓ Again, those little wins. Like stack them. Try one day, then two, then three. it's going to be hard. tell people, it's going to be hard. Like. I know way around it's going to be hard, nothing worthwhile in life is easy. It's hard for a purpose. But knowing what I know now, the clarity in how I feel, and I actually loved myself for the first time, and I was so depressed. Again, I cannot say enough good things about it. My whole life is turned around, never going back.

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm. There you go, there you go. You kind of answered this and I was gonna ask you like, what would you say to a dad who is, know, he needs to make that change, but it's kind of like waiting for maybe the right time or, you know what I mean? Like we always kind of have these things where we're like, we know something's up, but we're like, ⁓ know, I some of it's tied to identity, right? Like your identity, this is who you are, right? Now this is gonna be this big, massive identity change and.

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah.

Roderick Richard II: We're just kind of on the fence about it. What would you say to maybe encourage that guy?

Andrew Sinclair: Well, I would tell you what's the most important. And to me, you just touched on something that's actually I'm kind of dealing with right now. The most important thing to me is taking care of myself and taking care of my family and being a servant of God now. Before I was known as, because you just said was part of Red Denny, I was always known as Steak and Whiskey Drew. That's my nickname. I like steak and I love whiskey. I was always the life of the party. People would always want me at the I was the first guy at the party, the last to leave, and had very high tolerance of drinking. I could drink a bottle of Jack and literally drive, which I did plain times, which is not good. I don't know how I avoided DUI. I was always the guy at the So that was part of my identity even at work I always ⁓ encourage like if you know if they're doing a relevant work I like if they don't allow alcohol. I'm not going you know and I would tell people all the time It's just like and I back like gosh how stupid of me and how arrogant and it was because I was projecting my own insecurities because I was the alcoholic and I knew I had to drink so I wanted everybody else around me to drink too to make ⁓ feel normal because I was sad depressed and I was out I was a problem you know else and I had problem I had the problem but I would try to take people with me and it's just Oh my gosh, so stupid. So stupid looking back on it. And I talk about it, I get frustrated myself because even at my retirement, I had the best retirement in the Coast Guard. 200 plus people showed up. Amazing retirement. But I had alcohol at my retirement. I was always sipping a bottle of whiskey at my retirement. And I told all the guys, guys and gals that I worked with, said, I want whiskey. So again, it was part of my identity. So I got roughly about $4,000 worth of whiskey given to me at my retirement. They kept walking up. the ⁓ as I'm speaking and placing the table and that was amazing because it but look I'm like everything centered around and ⁓ yeah and look it now and like and I just told you about some of the friends I'm having some trouble with some of the friends I very close to when I was in ⁓ and they're they ignore my and I think they pulled away I don't Because our relationship centered on us being in the Coast Guard and us drinking all the time. And it's sad because I still like them. They're very good people. But I know one of them has a drinking problem for sure. He won't admit it, and that's fine. he's away. So it's like I feel like they think judging them, which I'm not. ⁓ And they're my bros, and I'll always hang with them. But.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: I don't know if they feel, I don't know. So I'm learning some people are shifting out of my life now, which kind of hurts, but that's okay. I'm an adult, I can take it. But then I've also had a lot of new people come into my life that are good as well. So it's good and bad in certain things. I'm just in that process dealing with it. again, I'm not going back because I love me more than I ever have. And I love my family and my kids more than my friends and stuff. So, you know.

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes we don't understand it. It's making room or clearing space sometimes. And again, it hurts. I've had friends we were super close and then the time passed and I haven't talked to them forever. And then all honesty, I feel like if I ran into them, if we were just at the grocery store and ran into each other, I would be excited to see them. You know what I mean? would strike up an old conversation, but that's where the relationship is right now. And maybe looking on it. for the better, right? Because some of those guys that I'm talking about, they had some rough times between then and now, you know? And I knew I would have been front and center. You know, I'd have been right along with them doing some of the same things because that's what we did, you know? But now as things have shifted and I've leaned into being the present and available father that I want to be and an amazing husband and like, I can't hang out with you. I can't be your wingman. there's no room for that. You know, that doesn't fit.

Andrew Sinclair: Sure. Yep. ⁓ I feel... Exactly like... I feel the same. was hard to... So did change, because I changed my standards of what I ⁓ accept myself and I raised them. And some didn't that because remember my identity was tied to party Drew, drinking Drew, have fun Drew. And then I changed my think people, it made them uncomfortable because they had that view of me. ⁓ Drew's the party, now Drew's different, he think he's better than us or it's weird? So I'm like, you

Roderick Richard II: Mm-hmm. Right.

Andrew Sinclair: I know. I just have to, I told my wife, we're dealing, she's losing some friends too, and it's just, like you said, I think it's just part of process. We're just kind of in the middle of it, like the fog of the war right now, so just feels a little weird, but I'm moving forward with Jesus, my wife, my kids, so I'm good, you know? 100%. I feel so confident in myself and where I'm at in my life, but it's still, friends are friends, and I wish the best for them, and I still love them. know, they're brothers are brothers.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. You're in good hands. You're in good hands. Yeah, yeah. So something that we talked about a little bit earlier, I kind of want to bring back as we kind of get close to wrapping this thing up, is we talked about, you know, when you're raising your kids, we're kind of taking it one day at a time or doing it day by day. And we don't really know until the end, you know, how well we've done. Right. Maybe we do some check ins and we have those little individual conversations with our kids. We ask, you know, hey, how's that doing? But we don't know on the grand scheme. Right. What is it that you want your kids to remember about you when they're grown up? Not when you're gone necessarily, but like when they're adults and they're talking about their dad, what are some of the things that you want them to say or members want them to have?

Andrew Sinclair: That's a good question. Okay. want them to know that dad never quit. Dad tried because they saw me as an alcoholic many nights, you know passed out they know dad is sober and I want them to know dad never quit he chased his dreams He didn't necessarily ever fail He was always chasing his dreams I hope to get them. I still have a lot of work to do, a lot of work to do on myself and stuff, but they know that dad never quits at anything. I hear them talking to their friends on the RV park and they describe me as, I'm described as the muscly dad in the RV world, which is very, which ⁓ know youngest made the word up, which obviously not a word, but it's very funny. She's like, dad, you're known as the muscly dad, which I was like, okay, I like that. Yeah, but they know dad, dad will never quit.

Roderick Richard II: Okay, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: Dad loves him dearly and... I'm always, I think they like talking. They come to me and talk to me, so I like that. But I want for them when they're older, I want them to come be able to come visit me and know that dad's always there. And if they ever get into trouble, like come home. know, doors always open. Like if they're in their twenties and they're drifting lost, you know, having a hard time, my kids know they can call me anytime. know, dad will be there, dad and mom will be there. House is always open. Like we come home, we will take care of you, you know? Cause my kids are amazing. Like it's to me, it's the best blessing. The number one role I've been blessed with, I look now is being a dad. know, husband is most amazing, but I always say like, know, of course I never want to divorce my wife or something to happen, but I could, you know, ⁓ I died, she could remarry and you know, vice versa. My kids are always my kids, you know, and those are a gift from God and they're amazing, amazing kids and they're growing up to be amazing young adults right now. So, yeah, I guess I hope when we're a little bit that they want to come visit me. That'll be, I know I did a good job if they to come visit dad and mom. And hopefully they keep describing me as the muscle-y dad and all that. I'll keep training putting in work. Dad won't stop.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I love that. That's cool, man, to be the Muscley dad. Because like, when you, it's funny when my, my, my youngest is still in elementary. And so when you go up to the school, it's always like, you know, I'm kind of surveying the land. We have like the school events. I'm looking at the other dads and like,

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Roderick Richard II: He looks like he works out. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm still pretty good. Like if they had to take a vote, you know what mean? They might pick me if they need somebody to grab something heavy. So I'm okay, you know? so one of her friends told her, this was maybe last year or the year before, she's like, your dad like he works out all the time. And I'm like, bingo, that kid knows what's up. ⁓

Andrew Sinclair: Hashtag winning. Yeah. Yeah. But that's your winning though. If your friends, friends tell her and they tell you, to me that's good. If they notice, ⁓ man. It makes you feel good.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah, I like it. Yeah. All right. Before we wrap things up, I have one final question for you. Is if we were able to do this thing right and we promote the podcast and we get every dad to tune in and they're all gonna hear this next part, what is it that you want them to hear?

Andrew Sinclair: Alright, so do you me to plug my podcast or my channel or just any words of advice? Both? Okay. Alright, well I think life is too short not to chase your best self. And I developed my social media, my online presence around that. And I look at, I see too many dads, and I was one of them, who essentially just...

Roderick Richard II: Both. Both.

Andrew Sinclair: like drifting through life. I use that term a lot. Just kind of drifting, going through the motions, right? You're getting your steady paycheck. You put your health to the wayside. You're doing very well in corporate world and all that stuff. But you're not present at home. You're failing in your health. And we hear the term dad bod. And everybody's like, ⁓ it's normal to be in the dad I don't believe that's way it should be. I think it's used to justify laziness and not your health. ⁓ I think it's important, the older we get to prioritize your health because I know what it's like to feel be out of shape, and not be ⁓ to be as present and capable in your own body. Because the more capable you are in your own body, the more freedom you have to do whatever you want. I go hikes with my kids. I've done impromptu runs with other friends in the RV world. So I'm to live a life that's much, much fuller than ⁓ if I taking care of myself. So with that, just intentionally. Find out what you really want in life and live intentionally. And if it's chasing money, you know, you go for it but really find your purpose like find your person and can go after and for me that's being a dad and husband and servant of God I found purpose and I'm gonna pursue that and I found when I pursue that like everything else around me Elevates and it feels good. And so I say to other dads or men ⁓ around our age If you don't know where to start, there's so much research out there. Reach out to me on my page. The Drew Sinclair is my page. Reach out to me. I talk to folks all the time. Obviously, you have your page. You have a very big presence, obviously. Just start, though. Stop drifting. Life's too short. That's I say. Yep.

Roderick Richard II: Yeah, yeah. I 1000 % agree, Drew. I mean, I think that's the key, right? Is if we pursue our purpose, the other stuff that we think we want somehow finds us. Like when you start living in alignment, the other stuff just, you start attracting things that, you it's like, oh man, like I could have been chasing that, right? And it would have been running away from me, but instead I poured into myself and now these things are chasing me.

Andrew Sinclair: Yep. Exactly.

Roderick Richard II: or they're finding me, maybe not chasing me, because I'm not running away from them, but they're finding me, right? And they're kind of falling into place and everything's kind of lining up. If guys have listened to this up to this point and now they wanna reach out to you, you mentioned your Instagram, I don't know if you wanna say it again, but if there's a way that they can reach out to you, high five you, handshake you, thank you for the episode and the wisdom you shared, or if they just wanna follow along, maybe they wanna get some workouts or they wanna work with you.

Andrew Sinclair: Sure. Yep. Yeah.

Roderick Richard II: What is the best way for them to do that?

Andrew Sinclair: Yeah, so I have the Instagram. That's kind of my biggest social media presence. It's thedrewsinclair.com, not dot com, thedrewsinclair. TikTok, same way. And then I'm on Facebook. I started YouTube, but I don't know. I'm not doing long form yet. So mainly Instagram. just I tell people to DM me if you have questions. I talk to people offline all the time. I've talked to people about quitting alcohol, joining the Marriage advice having kids traveling RV. I've honestly I tell people I'm open book and I love sharing You know my journey with people I didn't realize I inspire so many and so for me I took it will open book, you know hit me up if you got questions about anything I love trying to help out, know where ⁓ you know when I can Yeah, so Sinclair

Roderick Richard II: Awesome, awesome. So fellas, you heard that now. Listen, if you're driving or working out, might not be the time, but it's in the show notes or it'll be in the show notes. So when you finish up, make sure you check that out. Make sure you go follow Drew. Send him a message to say thank you. five him, handshake him, like a post, you know, whatever feels comfortable for you. But sure you let him know that you appreciate what he's done and spent his time with us here today. Drew, thank you so much for spending time with us today. Like I said at the beginning. when you and I were talking that I understand how important time is for all of us. And so I don't it lightly that you took the time today to share with us about your journey and us a little insight into who Drew Sinclair is and kind his fatherhood and life journey. Thank you so much, man. I really, really appreciate it.

Andrew Sinclair: Sure. Rod it was an honor man. Hey, thank you for first of allow me to come under your podcast man You have a very big platform 500,000 plus man. You reached out was like whoa, you know, I'm the little small fish in the pond You're like the big you're you're the big guy. So I was like 100 % absolutely I was like, know hands salute. Let's go. So I just want to say thank you man And I started following your page now, so we have very similar You know faith family fitness and freedom, know, I think you have finance in there very similar like our pillars of what we kind of post and talk about so

Roderick Richard II: Yeah. Yeah. Thank Yeah.

Andrew Sinclair: was like man, I'm honored that you even have me on here dude, so I definitely appreciate you ⁓

Roderick Richard II: You know what, oversight, let me go back to that. I'm glad you mentioned it because I wanted to ask you about the freedom piece and what does that mean for you now? And you brought it up, before we jump off and let maybe we close on this, what does freedom mean to you now?

Andrew Sinclair: Freedom to me freedom everything is everything because we we want money to get freedom, right? At least that's my belief. People, you want money to do the things that you buy and buy your time back or buy the things that you want. So freedom to me is so important. I look at this lifestyle that I'm doing. ⁓ retired from the Coast Guard and I could have hopped into the corporate world. That's what usually a lot of ⁓ guys do. They do their 20 years and they get out and do a federal job. And busy doing that, right? I was I want to just take some time off for myself, for my family, and really just kind of figure out life and just have some freedom and see what happens. ⁓ Take an mind. I wanted to just change my entire identity, my life, Grow my beard out, my hair out, ⁓ long hair now. I want to just do everything, just open mind, be completely different. So freedom to just... be different how I am now. Traveling in an RV, not working. I do little online fitness coaching here and there, but I don't have a job where I go in like nine to five. And then on top of that, my wife doesn't have to work. So we have so much freedom to do what we want with our kids, and it allows us to live this amazing life. one day I hope to make more to do more extravagant and bigger things, right? But for the being, where we're at in our life, freedom ⁓ is amazing. Where kids are my life, the ages they're at, I cannot understate it. say pursuing freedom for me is And it's very, important.

Roderick Richard II: Love it, love it, love it. All right, Drew, thank you for joining us and I'll be talking to you soon, brother.

Andrew Sinclair: Awesome. you, Rod.