Most dads feel the pressure of money, even when they’re “making the payments.” In this episode of the 4 Fit Fatherhood Podcast, Rod sits down with Tony Manganiello (Tony Mags), a dad of seven and finance educator, to break down the system that keeps families stuck.
Tony calls it the “payment matrix.” It’s the cycle where your income gets organized around debt instead of freedom. They talk cash flow (not just budgeting), how interest quietly drains families, why the usual debt snowball can leave you with zero wealth built, and how Tony thinks about using the same dollars to attack debt while building a stronger future.
They also bring it back to fatherhood and legacy: prosperity means peace of mind and real connection with your kids.
📩 Connect with Tony: tony@tonymags.com
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