This episode starts where it should — not with credentials, but with character.
Rod sits down with Dr. Ben Page to talk about who he is as a man and father before ever touching chiropractic, books, or business. Ben shares what it’s like raising a 20-year-old and a 2-year-old at the same time, and how perspective changes when you realize how fast the moments go.
From there, the conversation moves into discipline, cold showers, early mornings, and why consistency beats intensity. Ben explains his philosophy that the body heals itself when given proper motion, nutrition, rest, and patience.
They cover:
* Why flexibility may matter more than strength for aging men
* Why healing takes time (and meds don’t actually heal)
* Meat and fat as fuel, plants as medicine
* The emotional pillar many dads neglect
* How nature helped Ben overcome a dark mental season
* One practical shift dads can make this week
If you’re training hard, feeling beat up, or carrying more stress than you admit, this episode will challenge you to rethink healing.
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00:00 – Opening: Who Ben Is as a Man
02:00 – Raising a 20-Year-Old and a 2-Year-Old
08:00 – Time Management & 5AM Discipline
15:00 – Cold Showers & Choosing Hard
19:00 – What Chiropractors Really Do
24:30 – Meat, Fat & Plants Explained
28:45 – The 4 Pillars of Health
31:00 – Playing in the Dirt & Emotional Healing
35:00 – The Comfrey Story
41:00 – Biggest Mistakes Men Make with Injuries
49:30 – The Most Neglected Pillar
52:00 – One Change Dads Can Make This Week
59:00 – Rapid Fire Questions




